will read it.
>>i think _we_ will know they are the ones making the music. what we could do
>>is to tell them in an easy way they are doing it. there could be a link to
>>a page that explains the concept, etc. (maybe with excerpts from this list)
>>
>
>So, the idea Gernot brought up (speaking with his voice again) is that the
>cyberaudience (sorry sticking with this word ) has the possibility to draw
>during the episodes.
>I do not know how this is called, but for example when you play a tune with
>a real audio player the player visualizes the tune somehow on your screen.
>And you see a black bar going from left to right while playing.
>Maybe they can draw this? and the real audience would see during the
>episode, that such a notation is drawn in the background (another screen).
>then - during the episodes - all audience members would see the bar going
>from left to right exactly at the drawing they saw established before.
>
>question is how can the cyberaudience draw on this? via rhythm? tapping on
>their mouse, via a certain quantity of clicking? via choosing some color?
>
>Than the cyberaudience will see / hear what they have produced.
>
>More Quantity may cause aggressive sounds and Loudness and more silence
>would produce a more lovely tune, that's what they will learn during the
>performance.
>
>just a thought
i think it's a good idea. one big problem is that slow connections will
make it impossible to play a 'rhythm'.
something that can be made is some sort of 'score', made up of dots on a
two-dimensional 'canvas'. this can then be 'played' by the computer that
deals with the choros. x would be time and y would be a sound choice.
ie: time (seconds?)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
1 O
2 O O
sound 3 O O
4 O
number 5 O
6 O O
7
if there are too many net spectators participating, we can set a limit to
the number of 'dots' to be drawn, and keep updating them during the
episodes (a moving picture). then, in the stasima (between two episodes)
the picture would 'freeze' and be played.
>>internet users are used to delays in their needs. we could tell them which
>>sound they have produced, and even let them hear _that_ sound alone (by
>>going to another page). i don't think this would be difficult (have you
>>noticed all the things they do in perseus with your 'interaction'?), and
>>would give the user the posibility to _know_ what he's doing.
>
>what exactly is the interaction the persus project includes? Maybe you
>could describe to us.
in perseus, almost every link is interpreted by the server, which then
gives you what you requested. nothing is hard-wired. if you want homer's
odyssey book 5, verse 342, it finds in which page it is and gives it to
you. and all of this is very fast.
perseus:
>At 17:41 01.02.97 +-100, Boris Karnikowski wrote:
>> a mixture of sea sounds and Netnoise (produced by the Cyberaudience which
>will hear the sound produced, but see no pictures - I am thinking of a mix
>of sea gull cries and the aforementioned modem crys or something of that
>kind) during switch-overs to the next scene/stage and during possible
>problems of any kind, i.e. Netlags/-splits ... this could - apart from
>making it visible - make for a dramaturgical representation of the Net as
>the other protagonist in the performance (and prevent the risk of
>embarassment when problems occur). While two or three monitors (or one
>video beamer?) should suffice to give a visual impression, the sound itself
>should give an impression of vastness and - depending on the context -
>threat. I could think of a rage of sounds from quiet ocean to stirred sea.
>
>Santiago, will we inclued Netsounds as well? You once said that is to much
>I think and I leave this all to you , it would just be a possibility to
>underline the methaphor.
for what gernot and me had talked here, i had dropped the idea of using a
mixture of sounds for the choros. but i do like the idea of mixing the sea,
gulls' cries and modem cries (with lits on reverb). maybe this can be used
during the episodes when there are storms or sea sounds in the plot, and
can also be used during net-lags, if they happen. for the drawing idea, i
guess voices are better.
best,
santiago
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