Re: Hi there...

Leopold Zyka (l.zyka@ping.at)
Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:03:12 +0100

Hi!

Dear Monika,
I assume you are the main responsible person for the project.
Therefore this mail is primarily addressed to you but also to
all other (remaining) participants.

This is my last trial to be uncomfortable to Oudeis !
If there is no response to this I will be off the list.

My issue is only about the technical realisation !
(This is the only real thing all other items dont need
new technology)

There have been several persons including myself which tried
to bring some structure in all the noise around Oudeis.

In our last meeting in vienna with Monika, Peter, Harald and me
we tried to find a base for realisation where I think it would
be feasable. There have been no consequences on this.

Also there seam to be no consequnces on all the other opinions
which are arguing for structured work !

Once again it looks to me that nobody is really interested
in basic questions !

In the meantime there is a long road of unheard voces:
Rainer, Peter, Harald, Me, Aaron and others.

Reading the mail from Mr. Schallhart Christian today it once again
confirms the situation.

I also spoke with Aaron this days.
Since I personally brought Aaron into the game I feel a little bit responsable
to express openly my feelings:

It is not only my opionion that kispro is wasting a lot of personal and other
ressources having a lot of (diffuse) ideas but no concepts at all !

Even worse nobody wants to see reality.

I think it is ok to work for nothing if there is somebody who really cares for
the progress of a project.

But it is a big waste of energy time and ressources if there is no concept,
no plan and no idea of what is the goal of the project !!

If this so called project wants to be more than some virtual fake somebody
should answer
at least the following questions:

* Is there any plan ( I mean really a plan !) for the future of Oudeis ?
* What is the Concept of Oudeis ?
* Who is the project leader of Oudeis ?
* Is there anybody who knows what is necessary to realize hardware and/or
software ?
I mean not just talking....

I totally aggree with Schallhart Chrisitan whom I dont know:

>Now, i read more of them - and i have to say something to all of this
>staff. From my point of view, as student of computer science, in general
>the things you write are nice, but nothing more.
Is there anybody taking this seriously ??

>The concept. As i said, i thought that there is *a* concept.
Exactly there isnt.

>There is more than one - your changing your concepts with every
>mail.
It would not be so bad if there is more than one concept.
But to mee it looks like there is nobody in charge who knows
what a concept is...
There is not one concept and there are not more than one concepts...

>You don't think a concept to the end. You don't know what
>you want to show.
Yes tons of text and links but nobody who has an idea what is
the sense of this project.

>The idea is important. Your are right, if you won't try
>to establish a real performance.
Yes thats right. It is ok if its only ideas of some virtual freaks
but it is impertinant if persons who really have to deliver real results
are thrown into this thoughtless game.

>But you never ask yourself or anybody wheter this is possible.
This would need some real work not just gossip.

>If you won't concentrate on a major concept, you won't succed.
Yes I think in the meantime there are enough persons which are
convinced of this !

>From my point of view, you want to show the new features of a new
>technology, you want to use it in your areas of interest. You
>will say or write, that i'm thinking only about the technical aspects.
>But it's fact, that you **need** the computers, the software and the
>other part's of the internet.
It is arrogant and stupid that kispro does not realize that
this project never will work if you think that is enough to have
some artists on the one hand and some usefull idiots which are
realizing every unreflected idea.

>So you can't ignore it, and dream on something nice, if you want
>to produce a good performance.
Yes, yes, yes.

PS. As mentioned above. If there is not a radical change in the way this
project
works I dont want to waste more time on this.

regards, Jonny

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