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>yaco's garden
>a quiet garden, where the moon's light is pale blue. there's a huge desk
>with lots of papers, books, a lit candle and a dusty Mac IIci.
...
>JakeS says, "Very excited. I've discussed the idea of involving a
>lighting company, vari*light as a sponser."
>You say, "know them. i worked with intellas for a couple of months here."
>"why discussed?
>JakeS says, "Having someone like them on our side would be very benificial"
>You say, "agree on that."
>JakeS says, "And they are apparently VERY supportive of educational theatre"
>You ask, "but i don't think a sophisticated lighting artifact is
>necessary... did you visit the www site?"
>JakeS says, "Yes, and the use of moving light for the actors could get
>VERY difficult"
>JakeS says, "With stationary lighting over such a grid, it would require a
>great many lights"
>JakeS says, "Not to mention the internet technology required to control
>that lighting"
>You say, "each position only needs three spots (RGB)... 64*3=192."
>JakeS says, "But with varilights, you could reduce the load to a few, and
>they might even be helpful in developing the software"
>JakeS says, "Exactly, I don't know what sort of resources you are used to,
>but 192 lights is a LOT for me, not to mention any general illumination
>you'd like (not spots, just washes)"
>You say, "don't think it's so difficult... if you can download a quicktime
>movie, controlling 192 spots shouldn't be THAT hard... what's 'washes'"
>JakeS says, "A wash is a light without hard edges to add general
>illumination and color to the stage"
>You exclaim, "thanks... and we're forgetting _sound_!"
>JakeS says, "I don't know if out mainstage at FSU, a large theatre school,
>even has 192 circuits for the lighting. . ."
>JakeS says, "Sound is the simplest of problems"
>JakeS says, "I've used a program that allows voice conferencing of almost
>10 people on 28.8 with near perfect quality and very little lag"
>You say, "the servers should be heavyweight ones... don't think a dimmer
>will be needed for each one... maybe just a combination of colors will do.
>i think the RGB thing is mostly a symbol for the RGB monitors you use to
>navigate."
>JakeS says, "And if the lines are short, the lag would be practically
>non-existant"
>JakeS says, "Not dimmers, CIRCUITS, actual plugs for each instrument."
>JakeS slaps himself.
>JakeS says, "Ohh, I see what you mean"
>JakeS says, "But, with just a few vari*lights, we could have much more
>control over both movement AND color"
>You say, "never used that kind of technology. internet phone (and family)
>are forbidden here 'cos international communications are all managed by a
>single company, so they don't want to lose money..."
>JakeS says, "Well, there's a program called Iparty (in the beta lab at
>Intel's websight), that some friends of mine and I have been using for
>almost a year that's wonderful"
>You say, "GOOD idea. maybe we need just five (one for each virtual actor).
>but you loose the RGB analogy."
>JakeS says, "Ahhh"
>JakeS says, "I wasn't seeing the RGB as an analogy. I guess that's a
>question of importance there. . ."
>You say, "that's when your perfect idea goes straight against practical
>solutions. hate it when it happens."
>JakeS says, "Well, perhaps the general illumination could use RGB colors
>in a smaller grin. . ."
>JakeS shrugs.
>JakeS says, "er. . . grid"
>You ask, "but isn't image or sound much heavier than 192 discrete values?"
>JakeS asks, "Heavier, as in bandwidth?"
>You ask, "...192 2-byte words, maybe?"
>"yup, bandwidth wise. (bandwidth: had word to spell!)
>You say, "yup, bandwidth wise. (bandwidth: had word to spell!)"
>SantiagoP thinks: 'hard'.
>JakeS says, "Well, the way this Iparty works. . ."
>JakeS says, "It compresses each user's speech"
>JakeS says, "Then sends it to a server. . ."
>JakeS says, "Which then plays the sounds in cue back to each client"
>JakeS says, "When using short sentances, it's VERY much like real time"
>JakeS says, "Transferring the lighting info will not be a problem at all,
>either way (vari*light OR multiple lights)"
>You say, "i made a little calculation. if the time-grid is one second,
>then bandwithdthdht usage would be 384 bits/sec, and that's not much."
>JakeS nods.
>SantiagoP mutters bandwidth bandwidth bandwidth...
>You say, "but anyway varilights _look_ good."
>JakeS says, "Well, like I said, the lighting transmition won't be too much
>of a problem (besides making the actual code), it's just the volume of
>instruments >You say, "the calculation was counting each light's position
>with 256-values precision (that's two bytes) times 192 = 384."
>JakeS says, "And like you said, they would look very nice, much smoother
>than cross-fades"
>JakeS is impressed with Santiago's precision.
>You say, "maybe a mix can yield good results, and you don't loose the analogy."
>:laughs, thinking about his calculator DA.
>SantiagoP laughs, thinking about his calculator DA.
>JakeS grins.
>You say, "er... now if we mix both kinds of lighting, bandetc... would be
>heavier... [smoke:] good idea."
>SantiagoP thinks bandwidth will be bw, so he can type faster.
>JakeS declares bandwidth to be 'bs' hereafter!
>JakeS says, "er. . . bw :)"
>JakeS wonders if Santiago understands the implications of the initials
>'bs' in American :)
>You say, "nope."
>JakeS says, "bs is commonly used to mean bullshit, but now the joke has
>grown stale"
>You say, "ok, bs then."
>JakeS laughs.
...
>JakeS says, "The performance will need SOMETHING to fill in for the sparse
>vocal interaction. . ."
>You exclaim, "[oudeis:] i was thinking about randomly triggered sounds
>--voices, sounds of travelling. [.mid:] send it to me!"
>JakeS hrms.
...
>CharlesD has disconnected.
>You say, "yup. you sent the url to me by email, remember? (i'm
>jaco@overnet.com.ar)"
>You say, "bye, charles."
>JakeS grins. Too slow Santiago. . .
>SantiagoP curses his slow connection, and thinks about oudeis in slow motion...
>JakeS nods sadly.
>JakeS says, "A fear we all have"
>You say, "one of the scheduled places is here, in buenos aires."
>You say, "there are a couple of good 'tubes' (do you call them that way).
>those should be used for oudeis."
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santiago
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