> Thank you, Jim, for so ably proving my point that oudeis has entered the
> Land of the Lestrygonians. I must say, you have all the charm of an open
> chancre sore.
>
> Let's see, what are some of the things Jim has said recently:
>
> He has personally attacked Santiago saying he should learn some manners and
> that he needed to "get laid".
>
Also questioned his diet and sleep and may have given unsolicited advice
concerning same. Artists have the 'gift' of losing themselves in their work and
sometimes have to be reminded that they have bodies.
> He attacked the entire team when he said he could "get more intelligent
> conversation about the Odyssey from a handful of redneck loggers than from
> the whole of Vienna, Buenos Aires, Los Angeles, Australia."
I see that I have made my redneck logger friends look bad in your eyes. That
was not my intention. These guys know a lot about animals and types of wood,
the raising of numerous types of plants, fix practically any kind of wiring,
plumbing, heavy equipment, etc. These are intelligent people. But the Odyssey
is new to them. I think Sophia and Michel are really excited about it. Sophia
just got back from Athens and is talking about adding Greek to her list of
languages. But they are a little shy about literary subjects. So we haven't
talked about the Odyssey yet.
> He has attacked Macintosh and the people who use them.
>
> He has attacked people who simply disagree with him, "I hear Georg not
> wanting to do a live performance for Freiburg. Lee sounds much the same. I
> agree. I also want the Flash and Bang Team (FBT) to stay out of the way.
> Shut up. Go somewhere else."
>
> Apparently, everyone who disagrees with Jim should now stay out of his way
> (Mon, is this the collaboration you envisioned?).
>
> And, most importantly, he has ridiculed the goal of oudeis and made it
> clear that he is only interested in a MOO or MOO/web performance, "My
> proposal is to simplify the whole effort down to the only *proven*
> technology we have--Web and MOO."
>
> Now, apart from the fact that this disregards 95 percent of the goals and
> aims as stated in the list and on the website, there is very little new and
> groundbreaking in what Jim wants to do. They are merely extensions of
> concepts that have already been explored. If this is what oudeis is going
> to be reduced to, after all of the great ideas and concepts that have been
> put forth, then it is truly a shame and oudeis will be relegated to nothing
> more than a footnote in some obscure meaningless academic book. I know we
> can do better than this whether we will or not remains the question.
>
> Regarding the rest of Jim's mail, it is just more of the same and I am not
> going to waste my time commenting on it. It is quite obvious that there is
> no such thing as a debate with Jim. He is always right and you are always
> wrong. Personal attacks replace reason and self-righteousness rules the
> day. If there is to be an honest open debate that is fine with me but I
> prefer not to squander my energy by getting into the cesspool with Jim. I
> have better things to do with my time.
>
> Leaving the Land of the Lestrygonians and continuing on the Odyssey,
> Lee
-- Jim Terral South Slocan, BC http://www.netidea.com/~jterral/ http://moo.hawaii.edu/athemoo/WebMOO.html jim