We are in the beginning of a long discussion about one of the 2 basis of
our project ( 1)the nature of the virtual actor 2) the text)
First, from kispro's paragraph, and from previous talks, I feel there is
a huge misunderstanding going on about the text. It is unclear which text
we are talking about. There are different versions, 3 of them alone
forthe "final" oudeis and 2 for "Among Immortals.
Second, our team consists of a group of creative individuals with
different perceptions and understandings. We have to be clear about the
fact that we have to ask ourselves if we want to make compromises. To be
more clear - Gernot and Lee have different points of view, regarding the
script of the play (pls correct me if I am wrong). This can be a
productive challenge if we decide to bring it together but than we have
to be clear about a strict division of work. The director would stage the
text -> of course he would interpret it in a collaboration with the
author/dramaturge.
I like to be open about this point and I would like to hear gernot's +
lee's opinions, as you already made your experiences in working together.
Could you do it again?
I know that this asks compromises from both sides. Lee is working on
oudeis in a way that is not his usual way of working (again, pls correct
me; but you once wrote, that a "compilation" is not your favourite way to
create a text)
Gernot, I know is usually writing the text in a collaborative effort with
most of the work done during the actual reherseals. This way of working
is NOT possible for oudeis -> Things have to be more fixed right from the
begining!
again, if we are willing to adapt our way of working to the people we are
working with and the situation we are working in - the diversity of our
team WILL create an unique piece.
After saying all this, and before having heard Gernot's and Lee's
opinions, I _decide_ on the following.
There will be a discussion between Lee and me, (NO open discussion on
idea list) and before the
January meeting we will let you know which text we think oudeis will use.
This discussion will regard the following points:
* coroporate identity (we spent 2 years promoting oudeis + the Odyssey),
* Copyright (kispro have you done _anything_ or is my mail to the
publisher the only contact we have?)
* playability
* alternatives
* choros is already using Homer
>
> 7) We think that staging the play on two stages, as Juli suggested, is a
> very good idea but are unclear about who should finance it.
>
> 8) We also question the ideas of the lightcones and the biosensors. We
> think about one director per stage and agree on working in subgroups.
> But: who is to pay them? At the moment, there is noone in Vienna
> besidews Gernot Lechner and Karin Mayer who would participate in the
> project unpaid.
Cat's mail gives us alot to think about the possible failure of our
concept. I really thank you for sharing your experiences with us.
However, we won't start from scratch again and try to come up with a new
concept on the list. We desperately need a group who would discuss and
try out an idea of a virtual actor!
I am sorry to hear that the technical team in Vienna does not exist any
more (beside Rainer who is still taking care of our sever!!!)
Another group has to present the concept of the virtual actor on the
screen. This will now include the MOO. Tnx to our experienced group
members and their recent development of SurfnTurf, I am very confident in
this to be the strongest part of oudeis so far.
Pls, let us just not forget an important aspect:
What distincts oudeis from former MOO-theater projects (and from AI!) is
that the actors on the screen of the online audience are intended to be
the real actors in some way. remember: the webstage should be a
combination of :
a mirror of the RL event = virtual actors interacting/playing
the door to the choros
the MOO for support of the theatrical action and understanding
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just some comments to kispro:
> 9) We are willing and happy to participate in fortnightly meetings.
are you willing to participate in the online information flow???
> World wide production leading
santiago proposed himself as a god :) tnx, but I guess we would need your
energy and time in other parts
there are 2 things required from the wwproduction leading: an overall
decission maker + an actual producer (company)
I don't see another alternative, and I am sorry that I have to say this
after all contradicts in some way to georg's statment about the lack of
hierachy in oudeis. the question lies in a definition of hierachy and we
don't need to get into this. The highest status in our team has the IDEA
- this idea is toatlly independent from a person (!)
What oudeis needs is an overall decision maker + somebody who actually
gets the hands on (financial) basics and the reality
> Finding of a financial basis
see above
> local pruduction leading
> Finding of RL stages
I propose a differnt approach -> there WILL NEVER be 7 stages + 7
independet production groups in any soon tiem
> Finding of a technical basis for4 lightcones, biosensors and musci
> Choosing actors
goes together with a delegation of the 2 stages (I think that's way
enough to star with and they might be necessarily in 1 country)
> Composing the music
:) king and the gods will hopefully take care of this
> Creating a text
is there an agreement that lee + me can take care of this independently?
> Net communication
well gernot, that is a point that you can address for yourself :)
I am running out of time - so I will come back to other points later!
CU on tuesday before christmas for a short meeting
- stay in touch on the list until january 20th!
Mon
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> 12) Thereafter, rehearsals can take place
> 13) the people involved in the project at the moment are in our opinion
> fit for the following tasks:
>
> Monika Wunderer: Net communication and cooperation in the world wide
> Production leading, Status Quo
>
> Juli Burk: contextual and organisational leading of a theatre production
> in the MOO in the context of the whole performance (like at ars)
>
> Twyla: Cooperation with Juli
>
> L. H. Grant: Finding of an econmical and technical basis (lightcones
> etc), net communication
>
> Santiago: Composing music
>
> Georg: Status Quo, Moo
>
> Aaron: cooperation in finding the technical basis
>
> Jim: MOO
>
> Karin: Local production leading
>
> Gernot: theatrical directing
>
> 14) We would like to discuss the absence of people for various importand
> positions like world wide production leading, finding of financial basis
> etc. with all of you
>
> 15) All these thoughts can, if they are taken in the most positive way,
> lead to a world wide performance of the oudeis - project on RL stages.
> We would also be prepared to make a scaled down version like a virtual -
> only performance in the cyberspace.
>
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Monika Wunderer wunderer@oudeis.org
TC, Columbia, New York
http://st1hobel.phl.univie.ac.at/~wunderer/
http://www.oudeis.org
meet me at http://moo.hawaii.edu/athemoo